One of the more pervasive myths regarding “chemtrails” is that 2008 presidential hopeful Dennis Kuchinich tried to have them banned by an act of congress, but was pressured by the government to modify the act to remove the mention of “chemtrails”.
So what really happened? In a nutshell, Kucinich did not write the bill (or read it, until too late), the focus of the bill is nothing to do with chemtrails, it was written by UFO enthusiasts Alfred Webre and Carol Rosin, who were trying to:
- Nullify a vast conspiracy by the “military-industrial complex”
- Allow the use of suppressed alien technology for free energy
- Avoid accidentally shooting down (or scaring away) visiting aliens.
They listed a bunch of weird weapons, including mind control, tectonic weapons and (very briefly) chemtrails. The bill was re-written several time in less unusual language to give it chance of passing, but ultimately fizzled in committee.
The specific act was HR 2977, the “Space Preservation Act of 2001″, the stated goal of which was:
“To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.”
The initial version of the act is the only one that makes mention of “exotic weapons systems”, listing several technologies that will be familiar to conspiracy theorists:
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
Yes, it even includes “extraterrestrial weapons”, meaning weapons created by aliens (or created from alien technology from crashed flying saucers at Roswell), as well as psychotronic (mind control) weapons. Yet somehow “chemtrails” gets all the attention here.
Who wrote this? The original language for the bill was actually created by Alfred Webre and Carol Rosin. See, from Webre’s web site:
With Dr. Carol S. Rosin and many others, [Webre] is a co-architect of the Space Preservation Act and the Space Preservation Treaty introduced to the U.S. Congress by Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) to ban space-based weapons.
And also
http://www.exopoliticsinstitute.org/advisory-board-PP&M.htm#Webre
With others, Webre is a co-architect of the Space Preservation Treaty (www.peaceinspace.org ) and the Space Preservation Act that was introduced to the U.S. Congress by Congressman Dennis Kucinich and is endorsed by over 270 NGO’s worldwide.
Webre and Rosin started an organization called the “Institute For Cooperation In Space“, an organization whose primary purpose is to promote adoption of the Space Preservation Act. The ICIS states on its web site in part:
Humanity is on the threshold of a quantum leap in consciousness and endeavor.We must now take action to preserve this grand opportunity by preventing the weaponization of space.
We have a critical choice – to explore the great unknown of outer space or to risk continued suffering and disasters, devastation or obliteration. We can rise above different perspectives and actions that didn’t, don’t, and won’t cause second order change, actions that recognize our high consciousness and human potential applied with out-of-the-box thinking and intention to cause second order change, or we can continue the status quo of protesting the old and accepting the same that would only lead us to more violence instead of peace.
The whole site has a very “new-age” feel to it. Seemingly if only this act is passed, the military-industrial complex will turn from its warlike ways, and humanity will enter a new age of cooperation, progress and raised consciousness. The rationale for a weapons ban is never clearly explained. Nor is it explained why having weapons in space will prevent normal research and exploration of space. Obviously we would all like to see less deadly weapons floating over our heads, but is a total ban vital to the next stage of human evolution? ICIS seems to think so.
Indeed, when you talk about things in simple terms, an “international ban on weapons in space” sounds like a great idea. Like a ban on chemical weapons, it saves money and makes the world a safer place. So it’s not hard to get people to support such a ban.
The more well-known face of the ICIS, is Carol Rosin. Rosin claims that in 1974 rocket scientist Werner Von Braun told her “Carol, you will stop the weaponization of space”, and described to her a vast conspiracy by the military-industrial complex to raise a series of fears to justify space-based weapons. Since then, Rosin has dedicated her life to exposing this conspiracy, and allowing humanity to expand it’s consciousness into space. Here’s a video of her explaining this.
The video shows Rosin speaking at “The Disclosure Project“, an organization working to “disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems.” Rosin herself only briefly touches on this in her speech, but it is clear she believes that the government has alien technology, and is withholding it from the people.The other board members on the ICIS are co-founder Alfred Webre, Brian O’Leary and Daniel Sheehan, all of whom are deeply involved with The Disclosure Project.
Rosin commented on the “chemtrail” changes in the Bill here:
http://www.nwbotanicals.org/mediawatch/kucinich.htm (http://archive.is/Q038l)
Comment
From Carol Rosin
[email protected]
1-28-2Perhaps I can help correct some fuzzy information that is being spread about H.R.3616, the Space Preservation Act of 2002, and Congressman Dennis Kucinich.
This bill will only ban space-based weapons and the use of weapons to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit. It is NOT a bill to ban chemtrails and/or psychotronics or mind control devises or any specific weapons listed in the category of definitions in the original bill.
I’m not sure where that rumor started, but in any case, those definitional were only listed on the original bill for definitional purposes…to exemplify what space-based weapons might be deployed in space if the space-based weapons bill isn’t passed. Frequently bills are revised, and things like definitions are removed. No big deal. The legislation is in no way compromised. This Congressman and his legislation maintain their integrity and commitment to ban space-based weapons. It was never a bill to ban chemtrails or mind control technologies.
So what’s Kucinich’s involvement in this? It’s difficult to say. Kucinich is anti-war, so perhaps that’s his motivation. He does have a lot of new-age, UFO-believing, friends, but he’s also running for president. When he was made aware of the nature of the “exotic weapons” language in the bill, it was re-written, and when questioned about it, he said
“I’m not into that. Understand me. When I found out that was in there, I said, ‘Look, I’m not interested in going there.'”
Kucinich’s motivations are perhaps revealed by his speech to the house on May 18th, 2005, introducing a newer version of the bill:
“What has happened to our country? Why are we projecting fear and paranoia to such heights? Have we so lost our way and our faith that we are prepared to transform the heavens into hell? If the kingdom and the will of God is to be done on earth as it is in heaven, what is to happen when the United States takes nuclear fire up to the gates of heaven?
“Such an offense against humanity could bring the wrath of God upon this nation.”
So Kucinich thinks that space based weapons will offend God, since space is close to heaven, and if you put nuclear weapons near heaven then God will be offended and bring his wrath against us.
If you actually ARE a conspiracy theorist, then all this will come as little surprise to you. You will already believe the government is covering up technology based on crashed UFOs. Yet HR2977 is constantly being mentioned solely to make the case that “chemtrails” are something the government is aware of. The reality is that they were simply given a passing mention in bill written by new-age UFO conspiracy theorists and sponsored by an eccentric politician, all of who believe in things that are far more unusual than “chemtrails”.
[UPDATE] Webre, one of the authors of the bill, has moved beyond UFOs to time travel, and recently supported the rather extreme claim that the CIA predicted presidential election by using time travel to get a copy of Webre’s book from the future. This from his blog exopolitics.com
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/05/obama-pre-identified-as-president-by-secret-darpa-cia-time-travel-program.html (http://archive.is/qtyvV)
Mr. Basiago revealed that Project Pegasus was able to identify Jimmy Carter, who was then Governor of George, in 1971, as a future U.S. President. The program was in possession of a copy of the Universe Books edition of Exopolitics: Politics, Government and Law in the Universe by Alfred Lambremont Webre, a book that this reporter would not write until 2005, but which bears a quote on its front pages of a statement made by President Jimmy Carter.
According to Mr. Basiago, Mr. Webre’s book Exopolitics was, among other written works, physically retrieved from the future by Project Pegasus and brought back in time to 1971 or a prior time. At that time, 1971, Mr. Webre was General Counsel of the New York City Environmental Protection Administration and had been placed under time travel surveillance by the U.S. government.
I beleive in chemtrails because I am old enough to notice what’s been going on, Whe I was a kid and even young adult I never seen contrails left behind aircraft unless at air shows. As much research as you seem to show you don’t provide anything that would change my mind. You show military aircraft spraying as proof of contrails prior to the mid 90s I have read reports on geoengineering and why it should be happening and the risk to human health is worthy of saving the planet from global warming, and what I have not failed to notice is the similarities in the reports and the current trend of chemical aerosol spraying under the name solar radiation management. Also remember when in your life has the government ever been honest to its citizens. Only wealthy benefactors have a chance. There is one thing in all this that makes me believe in chemtrails and that is aliminium contamination. Aliminium is refined from bauxite and does not occur naturally in the enviroment so why is so much aliminium appearing in water supplies? Look up and WAKEUP…
I doj’t beleive in chemtrails because as a kid on the beaches at Christchurch, New Zealand, inthe late 1960’s I used to see long contrails overhead from flights betwee Wellington and Dunedin, and they would still be there when the a/c went back the otehr way.
And then in 1976 I became an apprentice aircraft mechanic and started working on those same jets – and guess what? they had nothing unusual fitted to them and weer still leaving contrails.
that plus there isn’t actually a single piece of verifiable evidence anywhere, ever, showing that they actually exist.
I’ll just comment on the aluminum issue. Aluminum is the third most common element in the earth’s crust. It constitutes 7% of the soil material in the United States. See this study, written by USGS scientists 11 years before the alleged first use of chemtrails.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/1270/pdf/PP1270_508.pdf
Of course, the aluminum in soil is not metallic aluminum, but generally inert compounds, mostly aluminum oxide and aluminum silicate. That is also what shows up in soil and water samples, since metallic aluminum is virtually nonexistent in the natural envfironment.
I have read extensively including much of the above, written to parliment my MP etc.etc. and am amazed that no one seems to come forward with a straightforward answer as to who is responsibe, and who is paying the bill. When ever there is a blue sky over this area high flying aircraft are chris crossing over head leaving a trails that quickly spread to provide a cloud cover. Some times they spread down wind so that the clouds are carried over the area.
I have searched the internet and read much but so far have not been able to obtain an honest answer.
The bill for what? Contrails? As it’s exhaust, the bill is for kerosine, which is paid for by the airlines, which in turn are being paid by passengers and cargo enterprises. Military airplanes also use kerosine, so the military pays for it as well, e.g. the taxpayer.
Is there any other bill to pay?
John Robertson wrote:
“I have read extensively including much of the above, written to parliment my MP etc.etc. and am amazed that no one seems to come forward with a straightforward answer as to who is responsibe, and who is paying the bill.
I have searched the internet and read much but so far have not been able to obtain an honest answer.”
John, I don’t blame you for being mystified. The fault for your mystification, considering that this situation has been spoken about for 15 years is squarely on the inability of the collective who believe in chemtrails.
Here at this site you will find far more factual information about the chemtrails hoax and what is bunk about it. When you read this site, you need to understand that all the bunk brought out here had someone who created it. We didn’t create his, we only respond to it. If you want to blame anyone, the names and connections for who has spread the bunk is all here.
However, I have also provided the chemtrails conscious activist community with a complete guide to solving this conundrum. It is a common-sense approach to a means of gathering information sufficient to identify with no question the exact identity of the planes you have been seeing, but which remain presently unidentifiable to you. You also need to know that as far as possible I have forwarded this information well over a year ago to the leadership of the chemtrails movement.
Rather than even ask their folks to apply my approach, the main leader, Michael J. Murphy, decided to create yet another movie which he can sell, totally ignoring any questions about how the ordinary people could solve this situation. Ask yourself why he and the others run away from a real solution.
Get back to me on what you think is the answer.
Here is my plan:
http://metabunk.org/threads/100-14-Years-of-Chemtrails-Comments-and-Suggestions
You guys have some nerve to CONTINUALLY tell people they don’t know what they are seeing, whether its saying the sky changing color completely after spraying is unrelated to the spraying (though it IS a direct result of it!) , or if it’s that they can’t be sure which cloud is above which one, because of some sort of “depth perception” ignorance, your tactic is to discredit first hand accounts of eye witness testimony, by out-sciencing the so-called layman. It’s a sort of intellectual bullying, where we are cheated and bullied out of our own KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING by some well-polished, but none-the-less LYING propaganda ARTIST/SCIENTIST…
BTW, you know who else accuses America of using ET technology? Paul Hellyer, former Deputy Prime Minister of Canada and former Canadian Defence Minister: http://www.youtube.com/watchv=CRYJxAN7wGU
And the Huff Post just did a story on declassified UK documents that reveal a desire to weaponize alien technology:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDQQFjAD&url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/uk-ufo-x-files_n_1668444.html&ei=-2ZlUMPbI6PK2AWQ5oDgCQ&usg=AFQjCNHmzJZc2MUrmsM8lHJcUVzrhopkPQ
So to bring up UFOs as some sort of discrediting tactic, only really serves as a distraction that the Legislative Bill did in fact bring up ‘Chemtrails’, and was worded that way for a reason. What Dennis was not prepared to do, was ‘GO THERE’. He didn’t say he didn’t BELIEVE in it, just that he didn’t want to touch the subject… After all, it IS the big don’t ask, don’t tell of political issues. Here’s a vid on Declassified Docs Reveal Genocide by Aerosols “Chemtrails” : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_dG9I4lvXU&feature=player_embedded
Look some people fall prey to needing ‘EXPERTS’ to tell them what they are seeing, but others know when the emperor has no clothes, regardless of what official papers acknowledge what they are seeing but if you need some, none-the-less, here’s a couple for the road: http://www.cio.noaa.gov/itmanagement/0025ren11.pdf
http://www.tdlr.state.tx.us/weather/weathermod.htm
P.S. Harvard just came out with a study that conventional foods are no healthier than organic foods- HA! We’re not buying that either! Since when are chemicals and poisons HEALTHIER than none? See, respectable people can say some pretty useless things.
Raphaelle said:
“Saying the sky changing color completely after spraying is unrelated to the spraying (though it IS a direct result of it!) …”
If you claim that the apparitions of the sky that you describe are not caused by water vapor or water ice crystals, then you have to provide evidence for that. No one did so far.
Do you claim that you can “see” chemicals?
Who gave you the idea that chemicals are involved?
I suggest you are being honest to yourself. Was it your own idea? Solely from observation?
Apparently, there is a new breed of people around. More and more of them pop up on youtube. They can identify chemicals by mere eyesight, even several miles away.
Who created these people? What is their purpose? Why do they always talk about chemtrails? Could they possibly part of a government project?
“Who created these people? What is their purpose? Why do they always talk about chemtrails? Could they possibly part of a government project?”
Maybe Arianna Huffington knows the answers, she has lots of weird news!
But, seriously, when I heard about the Kucinich bill I called his office and asked if anyone knew what a chemtrail was. No one knew, and so I told them that it was a hoax, and that I had written about it for the Congressional Research Service back in 1999.
http://goodsky.homestead.com/files/congrep.html
Not long after, Kucinich changed the bill and removed the chemtrail part. Maybe I am so powerful? Nahhh. He just realized he had been caught sponsoring a bill someone else had written which he had never read. Happens all the time and is usually quite an embarassment. The story is 100% exactly as Uncinus relates above.
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