I wasn’t sure how to go about contacting you personally, Uncinus, so I’ll just comment here instead. I recently came across a 50’s ad for the Air Force which has several animated bits in it showing contrails. I saw it and thought it’d be something you’d like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYQV2YdaaZQ

Hello.

Firstly can I say a this is a fantastic site, unicus.

I was dragged into this conspiracy a while back now by a friend armed with a video. It caught my attention, things seemed odd the way that this video explained them.

But I come from a science background and so prefer proof over hearsay, looked more into it and am more than happy with what science tells me compared to the lies blatently sold in these videos/websites.

One thing that has annoyed me throughout my research is the cries of disinformation from the conspiracy theorists. Any evidence to the contrary of their belief is seen as disinformation. But what really winds me up is that their beliefs have been built on disinformation in the first place.

So, I was wondering if you would do a piece on disinformation? There are lots of sources of FAQs for chemtrails with this disinformation in and I think it would be good to show these up as disinformation.

For example, there’s the bit in the video about the whole “it wasn’t like this when I was young”. Disinformation right there, central to the belief of chemtrails. You have more than adequate proof that planes were forming consistent contrails when we were young, heck even before I was born.

Another, taken from a chemtrail FAQ on the internet “According to the U.S. Air Force, jet contrails form above 33,000 feet when hot engine exhaust momentarily condenses ice crystals into pencil-thin vapor trails that quickly vanish like the wake behind a boat.” I haven’t googled for specifics from the US Air Force, but I find it highly unlikely that this is their explanation for contrails, and if not should be shown to be the disinformation it is.

I know that most of this information is here on your site, I just think it’d be nice to put some of it together to show what disinformation really is.

Keep up the good work. Peace.

Hmm. I dunno. 10-12 years in and still using incorrect information to lure people in?

I’d call that deliberate.

But I don’t know if I’m making a conspiracy out of a conspiracy, lol.

Goofs for Zulu

Anachronisms: Airliner contrails are visible.

Taken from -> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058777/goofs

Might be worth trying to get a screenshot.

Hi, I just found this picture. It is from 1966 about 5 new air services within the netherlands (note the 5 contrails).
http://a.imagehost.org/0168/nlm_1966.jpg

The title reads:

“This morning the 5 fastest highways appeared in our skies”

I will check, but I can’t promise you anything. The image was taken from an old newsreel.

Dude: its waaay past 10th October and no nuke anywhere. So much for you links.

Uncinus,

I came across your site a while back and admit that your explanations, rationales, evidences, and experience warrant consideration by anyone considering learning of this topic. I learned of it several months ago and aimed to debunk it. I never would imagine or want to believe such a phenomenon exists today. However, my reality testified this to me despite what I wanted to believe to be true. I live in a relatively small city…. Douglasville, Georgia. One day I awoke to go outside and get fresh air. I noticed that there was a certain smell that was unappealing and that the sky was smoggy. I simply thought it was my imagination and brused it off. Later that day however, I noticed several planes criss-crossing over my sky back and forth. I thought of the chemtrail theory and wondered if I was witnessing this personally or if I simply was apart of an air show as these aircraft were not flying normally to be commercial and appeared to constantly be flying as if they were not headed in any particular direction. I recorded these things hoping to find answers. I contacted several bases and researched flight times for local airports leading me to no reasonable conclusions. I then began noticing later that week that appearance of white particulates on everything around my home. I contacted several agencies and eventually spoke with a local EPA official regarding it. I was told that they were very “pick and choosy” regarding their acceptance of samples. I was told to cover these samples and not tamper with any evidence. I conclude that they agreed to come to my home because I was a medical professional(RN) seeking the benefit of those around me and myself. They scheduled a time to arrive at the beginning of the following week and I did what they had asked.

At night, I noticed what appeared to be web-like things hanging within the sky. I thought I was imagining or seeing things, but could not fathom what I had witnessed. I researched the issue only to be led to chemtrails and then a disease that has been termed, “MORGELLONS.” I did minimal research as this reality shocked me if it were true. The symptoms of this so called disease consisted of many strange and unfathomable things. People were reporting the appearence of varying colors of fibers coming from their pores. I thought it was bogus and warranted more research. While researching, I felt a tingle on my arm. I began to look at my body and probably started to become paranoid at what I was researching. I saw a tiny white hair, but thought it was most likely from my clothing. I then went into the bathroom and rubbed alcohol all over my arms. To my surprise, several hairs began to grow within seconds. I brused this off as I was not convinced that such a condition were real or supported with scientific evidence. I then went to buy products to soak in aiming to draw anything from my body. Surprisingly, I witnessed many strange and unfathomable particulates come from my body. I photographed them all because I knew no one would believe me. During my research, I had learned that people were called, “crazy” for such a condition and that no treatment options were available. I learned that the CDC was forced to research this pathogen but minimal funding was provided and they still haven’t released their findings despite that they stated they would in Jan 09. I was now introduced to a strange and unfathomable pathogen that was undefined, untreated, unaddressed, and unfathomable to say the least. Have you ever heard of it?

The reason I address this is because I have found that most chemtrail debunkers cannot address why web-like things are now on everything and in everyone and the numerous scientific evidence that has been done correlating chemtrails with these fibers. I did not present symptoms until after I had been recording these things nor have I ever witnessed such numerous aircraft flying on certain days, but not all. I also have planes that fly around my home all night long that no one has been able to classify or address….will you help me with your knowledge of these things? Will you review my videos and answer my important questions or will you react like everyone else continuing to testify to me that this is a reality worth acknowledging and accepting…..

My first video I made of “chem/contrails”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gv3I7XPIkY
The fiber problem…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA8jbhvN9w4
My scientific and observational analysis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw6_ktoW_O0
Compilation of the aircraft planes at night….fly all night long!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY2op9TzRQ0

Looking forward to your reply…

A researchers story…
http://proliberty.com/observer/20081212.htm

Jessica, you say: “I can observe that we now live in an energized electrical bath maintained by the concentrations of metal particulates and constant emissions from microwave towers, cell-phone towers, radio towers, satellite transmissions, electric lines and wi-fi systems. Now consider the pervasive presence of polymers in plastic water pipes, plastic plants, plastic clouds, food wrapping, car interiors, plastic clothing and plastic Christmas trees. Plastic is in a constant state of degradation and hence vaporization.”

Quickly, you’re in a bath of radiation almost all the time. Almost all is of such low energy, or from a source so distant, that nothing at all has any effect whatsoever on you. The only exceptions are first, cosmic rays.
These are so powerful and reactive that they reach down through the atmosphere through a cascade of diminishing collisions of lowering energies, and STILL may alter the DNA in your reproductive system.
Then solar radiation in the UV. The atmosphere reduces greatly the highly-energetic part of the UV radiation, but sufficient may remain to give you skin cancer.
Then again granitic rocks are radioactive, so you should avoid living too close to them, and radon gas may seep up through the ground and also damage you with ionizing radiation.
Finally, excessive use of cellphones may also subject you to ionizing radiation.

NOTHING ELSE TO DO WITH ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION WILL EVER WILL AFFECT YOU…

Secondly, ALL PLASTICS ARE POLYMERS. The term you were hunting for was “plasticizer”. Many pure polymer plastics are transparent brittle materials. Their mechanical performance is “improved” by dissolving in a plasticizing oil which is naturally soluble in the original brittle material. PVC is the classic case.
You have a point here. These oils are more often than not carcinogenic.
I personally preferred to buy second-hand cars (rather than new ones) for this reason. It’s always a good idea to back off from such fumes, and especially if you are smoking a cigarette as well. Many plastic products have a skin coatings of mold release agents, which may be other light-fraction and possibly teratogenic oils which are freely absorbed by human skin.
But the general natural ageing breakdown of artificial polymers does not produce TRULY deadly organics such as dioxin (the way combustion can), but products which are naturally digestible by the Earth’s bacteria. In fact this latter group is so completely adaptable evolutionarily that I’m quite confident that no matter what organic plastics Man devises, a bacteria will rapidly evolve to exploit it as a new food resource.
So you are definitely worrying unnecessarily, unless you smoke, live in a granite cave during the night, and stand on mountain-tops all day, wearing plasticized PVC clothing – and using a cell-phone.

Jazzroc, You are, and will forever be, my hero! I’m so glad to know you.

Steven of the park bench:

I doubt that there is a way to tell the difference between chemtrails and contrails because of design.

There is certainly proof of there being NO “chemtrail” components in contrails.
It is in the GAP you see before the engine exhaust freezes in the -40 stratospheric air.

Aluminum, even in the smallest proportions, would turn that gap WHITE.

Bariumum, even in the smallest proportions, would turn that gap GREEN.

So it appears that even the DENSEST trail is metal-free.

The normal response is then “Not through the engines, Spray nozzles are used”.

But spray nozzles are yet to feature in ANY YT vid. (Unless you thinking of the icing test spray special assembly which sometimes turns up.)

To prove that “chemtrails” exist at all you have to PROVE a method of delivery. If you cannot do this, then your theory lacks essential evidence, and has no greater weight, for instance, than the theory that there are fairies at the bottom of your garden.

Please submit lab results that say these chemicals come from the trails in the sky, or admit you are jumping to conclusions. I’ll even go a step forward and call you a liar. You gave no sample/analysis.

Hmm, interesting, my post was deleted. Again, I say, Explain the salient points of Hegelian Conflict resolution and I will show you the analysis. If you do not understand tis find………………….but you will have no defense in being inculcated with superfluous fluff that will mitigate linear thought.

Hey Mr Hegel’s Disciple, the trails you see in the sky are just contrails. You do not need to invent a scheme as elaborate as chemtrails to explain everything that is observed, including the barium and aluminum levels you are finding on your plant leaves. That stuff is not coming from contrails; I am quite certain about that.
To paraphrase a post I saw on GLP recently which sums it all up:
“What makes you think that jet exhaust is any different when a contrail forms than when a contrail doesn’t form? Are you really that stupid? Jet exhaust is identical whether you see it or whether you don’t. And, you’re not being sprayed from an altitude of six miles.”

And another thing….Let’s all stop pretending that one source of information is just as good as another. There is NO WAY that anyone can convince me that it’s sensible to accept “truth” from those who have never properly studied the subjects. Peer review and the scientific method are how we gauge truth. Not through guesses, conjecture, misunderstanding, belief, assumption, speculation and pure wishful thinking. It’s just SAD what passes for information within the “chemtrail” believer community. Pathetic is the only word that accurately describes the attempt of those in that community to educate themselves in this particular subject. No, I’m not going to mince words here…anyone who has accepted the hoax as fact, given the complete LACK of evidence, PROVES their lack of education. I’m not pointing out anything that isn’t already common knowledge within the community of those of us who have bothered to educate ourselves in the subject. Please, if there is incorrect info being put on this site, please provide evidence to support the claim.

Excellent!