People Don’t Notice Contrails
I find clouds fascinating. If I see a lenticular cloud while driving I might nearly crash the car while straining for a better view. I’ve only seen mammatus clouds once in my life, and stopped to try to take a photo. I’m quite fascinated by contrails and contrail shadows, especially the “black beam” shadows that seem to extend in front of the contrail.
Yet my fascination is not shared by the general population. When I saw the mammatus there was nobody pointing up at the sky. Other people on the freeway were not swerving their cars, despite the impressive black beam in front of them. Why not?
Unfortunately, the answer is rather simple: they’re just not that into clouds.
Yes, my cloud obsession is simply not shared by other people, much in the same way that I don’t understand my friends interests in certain sports, or cars, or the contestents on American Idol. They might be similarly bemused by my lack of interest in such things. But the point here is that most people’s interest in clouds is limited to A) is it sunny? and B) might it rain?
So it’s hardly surprising that the gradual increase in contrails over the last 30 years has gone much without comment. Each year the sky looks pretty much the same as last year. But then, you get some people who, for some reason, started looking at the sky with more interest, and they noticed, for the first time, that the sky sometimes gets covered by contrails that spread out into a layer of cloud.
They then sometimes slip down a slipperly illogical slope – if they had not noticed this before, then that means it was not there before, hence it just started, and hence again it must be something deliberate. So the “chemtrail” theory is born – these persistent contrails are actually some kind of nefarious deliberate spraying by the powers that be.
You’ll note that this theory is based on one fact in the theorist’s mind: “I did not notice this before”.
So, if you did not notice something, and hence it did not exist until you noticed it, then what about all those people who have NOT yet noticed that contrails spread? Do the contrails not spread for them?
The reality is that the vast majority of people simply don’t pay much attention to clouds, or planes in the sky. The contrails have been there all their lives, and they might as well be noticing the type of covering used on the road outside their house, or what hairstyles the newsreaders have For most people it’s stuff that is simply there, and does not impact their lives in one way or the other. It changes slowly over time, but day to day you don’t notice any change.
Sometimes though some people notice things that others have not, and then you can get into an argument about how things are, or were. One such argument took place in 1971 between celebrity activist Arthur Godfrey and Senator Gordon Allott, R-Colorado, over possible effects of the then proposed supersonic transport (the SST, a high speed plane like the Concord).
One of the concerns Godfrey raised about the SST was the possibility of excessive contrail coverage. The problem of contrails creating clouds was well known in 1971, and Godfrey was well aware of this from personal experience. But Senator Allott was simply a person who had never noticed these spreading contrails, and hence we get the following newspaper clipping from the March 11, 1971 Missouri Mexico Ledger: (See the 4th story across at the top: “Godfrey calls SST ‘Nonsense’“)
Godfrey tangled with Sen. Gordon Allott, R-Colo., when he said present jetliners are environment hazard enough without adding SSTs to the skies. Godfrey said he’d seen, on hunting trips to the Colorado Rocky Mountains, blue skies ”clouded over” by jet contrails by 9:30 in the morning.
Allott said he’d lived in Colorado all his life without ever seeing jet contrails form clouds—and said he has too much respect for the environment go go on hunting trips and shoot animals.
If a US Senator failed to notice these spreading contails spreading in 1971, is it really that surprising that people still don’t notice them now? Or that people who believe in “chemtrails” are simple people who have only now, for whatever reason, taken an interest in the skies.
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<blockquote>But surely the contrails would evaporate?
How do you explain that, given those facts?</blockquote>

Speak for yourself. I’m just as dangerous when driving if I see a lenticular cloud.
I have seen a line of seven lenticular clouds “bouncing” downwind from our neighbouring island of La Gomera in the Canary Islands, and there is fairly often a large lenticular cloud above Mt. Teide volcano in Tenerife (which is more-or-less overhead for everyone here).
I have seen mammatus clouds over Hertfordshire but I’ve never seen the magnificent supercells, tornadoes, and wall clouds that you get in the southern States.
Nice site. I am here because friends are hyper chemtrail theorists and I promised to do some research. They claim it is the UN seeding our skies with aluminum bromide.
I grew up on air force bases in the US in the ’50s and ’60s, so am very familiar with contrails. Dad flew C47’s for many years, so I always had my eyes in the sky. Contrails have always been persistent (or not) depending on the weather and altitude.
One point not raised here and elsewhere: for all the junk still in our air I think our skies are much cleaner these days, especially on the east coast. I recall airline trips back east as a kid in ‘clear’ weather where I could not see the ground from the air. The haze was much thicker than today. I vividly recall contrails in North Dakota and Missouri, but not so much in upstate New York.
As for mammatus/supercells/wall clouds: I witnessed the very deadly tornado in Kansas City, Missouri in May of 1958. That day featured just spectacularly odd shaped clouds of an odd color.
cooooool website. i found this site because im writing an article for my high school newspaper on the recent phenomenon called “chemtrails”. although i believe there is corruption in our government and the human society, i was skeptical to draw negative conclusions about chemtrails. i have the luxery of living in hawaii where lush blue skies is the norm.
im young, about to graduate high school, and ready to move into california, and the thought of a depopulation program of some sort is frightening, especially on a mass scale. my interest in clouds and the sky is of recent, so i can’t reference back to the early 90’s because at the time my only worries were if i could go outside and play at the park or not.
i was wondering if you could help me understand the chemical content of contrails, and whether or not they are harmful to us.
Contrails, the visible part at least, are made from ice which is formed both from the water in the exhaust, and the water in the surrounding air. It’s basically a type of cloud. If the weather is right it can last a long time.
Aircraft exhaust is similar to car exhaust. Apart from the mostly inert nitrogen already in the air, it’s mostly water and carbon dioxide, plus some other things like soot, carbon monoxide and various chemicals. This page has a good overview:
http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc/aviation/099.htm
Have you ever seen one trail disappear after about 30 seconds and the other trail stay for more than 2 hours?
This happened from just a single plane.
Yes I have. The plane is flying through different regions of air, with different humidities and/or temperatures. Quite frequently I see a segment of a contrail last for a long time, while the rest quickly fades away.
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I should have explained myself better.
This happened in parallel, the right engines trail disappeared after 30 seconds while the left engines trail was visible for over 2 hours.
I wish I had taken a picture but I was at work.
There’s a few possible explanations for that, of varying likelihood.
1) It was actually two planes, a low visible plane, and a high plane that was hard to see, yet left a trail.
2) It was one plane, but the two engines each had a different power setting.
3) Only one engine of the plane was in a humid region – unlikely, but it’s possible the plane was just skimming the side of a humid region. Think of a cloud, but invisible, is it possible for a plane to fly with one wing in a the cloud?
4) The wake vorticies combined the two trails into one main trail, which is what you saw.
5) Some secret program of spraying stuff is responsible for the second trail (or the first, as contrails sometime persist, whereas sprayed stuff sometimes dissipates).
All in all, very hard to tell without photos or video.
I vote for choice number 4. Occam’s razor and all.
I think that chemtrail theorists don’t understand just how many commercial airplanes are passing over their heads throughout the day because they can’t see them. It is virtually impossible to see an a commercial airliner at 30,000 feet WITHOUT a contrail pointing it out.
Take for instance this video “three chemtrail planes spraying at once” -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxdiwS2R62Q
The airplane in the middle plane all but disappears until the camera zooms way in on it :10 seconds in. Even then, without its initial contrail, it’s impossible to really tell what it is, as someone else mentioned, it looks like an “orb”.
Therefore it’s my opinion that people believe their skies to be “free” of airplanes, until “spray days” when conditions are right for persistent contrails. At that point it feels like they’re under attack by all those airplanes over their heads.
I also live very close to Person Airport in Toronto, Ontario.
Around 10km away, so I see many low flying airplanes, makes for some very interesting views.
Thank you for your time.
Well now that we have noticed, we don’t like it. I don’t want my blue sky turned to a haze of criss-crossed bullshit-fake clouds because some ADHD pilots just can’t stop zipping around the sky, doing who-knows-what for who-knows whom. Find a technology that doesn’t fucking trash the world, destroy the beauty of nature (which belongs to all) and ruin my view, or fucking step down bitches! And unlike you I wouldn’t be surprised if the military was spraying some form of chemicals on us, I mean have you looked at human history? Do you see the bullshit which those in control always seem to get into, and how little they care about you or I? Remember Agent Orange? Or was that just Kool Aid they were dumping on the Vietnamese? And do you think that Fluoride in your water is really for your teeth? You my friend, under your veneer of scientific rationality, are actually dangerously naive.
The pilots are going from point A to point B. I KNOW you “think” they are turning around and creating patterns in the sky just to annoy you, but you are wrong. And your house blocks my view of the nature under it. Please tear it down! See how ridiculous that is?!? And since there is ZERO evidence to support any claim that anyone is spraying anything, there is no reason to believe there is any such thing. Unless, of course, you buy into the paranoid rantings so prevalent on youtube and other sites dedicated to hoax BS. And comparing “Agent Orange” to the trails in the sky is like comparing apples and elephants I know you don’t agree…that’s OK. I don’t agree with your either. I may be “dangerously naive” but that’s better than pathetically paranoid ANY day of the week.
Tastic!
> And your house blocks my view of the nature under it. Please tear it down! See how ridiculous that is?!?
Yes, QUITE! I own my house and the nature under it, you and the persistent contrail leavers on the other hand DO NOT own the sky. F’ing ridiculous analogy.
> And since there is ZERO evidence to support any claim that anyone is spraying anything, there is no reason to believe there is any such thing.
Clearly you have chosen to disregard the actual evidence that does exist as seen in the special aired on Discovery channel and many other independent analyses of persistent contrails and their fallout. There are spray days and non-spray days. You will allege that the difference is merely atmospheric when in fact those of us making observations have noted that the persistent contrail leavers aren’t even in the air on non-spray days.
> I may be “dangerously naive” but that’s better than pathetically paranoid ANY day of the week.
Sure, but not nearly as good as open-minded and observant of all sources of information, no matter how contrary to one’s own world view. I love clouds too, just not the linear unattractive man made ones.
Huh?
the only “evidence” of supposed “chemtrails” is that they persist and contrails supposedly don’t. There has not been single sample of contrail- an actual sample of contrail- that has shows to contain anything other than would be expected in jet exhaust.
Asserting that a “sample” taken from the ground is from a contrail is simply not logical. It is without scientific precedent and should not be considered “evidence”.
Can you provide any source material for these “many other independent analysis “- please tell me you have more than will thomas or carnicon…
If contrails actually do persist…then how do you know there are “spray” days and non-”spray” days…
“persistent contrail leavers aren’t even in the air on non-spray days.” – this doesn’t even make sense…persistent contrail “leavers” are any plane who flies thru the right atmospheric conditions…do all planes stop flying on those days?
Please help me understand.