AC-130 Flares and Chaff
Not a contrail, but a nice image:
A U.S. Air Force AC-130 Gunship aircraft executes an evasive maneuver and drops chaff and flares during a firepower demonstration at the Nevada Test and Training Range in Nevada on Sept. 14, 2007.
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/newsphoto.aspx?newsphotoid=9540
I don’t know if you can actually see the chaff. I suspect that’s all just smoke from the flares. I suspect that when they are released simultaneously then it’s as a countermeasure for incoming missiles, and so will be very short-lived, a few seconds at most.
I’ve never actually seen a photo of modern chaff being dispensed. Is such at thing even possible to photograph? I’d be grateful if someone could point me at a photo of chaff.
10 comments Tuesday 21 Jul 2009 | Uncinus | contrails
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To quote someone, please use <blockquote> and </blockquote> tags, for example:
<blockquote>But surely the contrails would evaporate?
How do you explain that, given those facts?</blockquote>
It truly IS a “chemtrail”. Now the jig’s up!
No chaff that day… (i am pretty sure this is shot is from a firepower demo) rarely see chaff used stateside for many reasons… you don’t normally dump that many flares out at one time but it was the end of the fiscal year so units tend to get “showy” at the the FPDs
The image caption says it’s a firepower demo. Not sure what that means though. Why do you say there’s no chaff if the caption claims there is chaff?
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/newsphoto.aspx?newsphotoid=9540
Uncinus:
Because chaff may be finely-divided, Uncinus, but it won’t be invisible, will it? (At least not until it has fallen some distance and its elements have separated from each other to a considerable degree?)
Every trail visible in the picture has a flare at the end of it, so these are infra-red missile decoy flares, for sure.
My understanding tells me that radar-decoying chaff would be released earlier in any battle scenario, as missiles employing radar are typically long-range devices (up to 30 miles).
Infra-red decoying flares would be deployed against infra-red missiles, which are typically close-up weapons (up to 3 miles).
Can YOU see any chaff anywhere?
No I don’t see chaff. I don’t think there is chaff there. But I’m VERY curious as to what chaff actually looks like when deployed without flares. I just can’t find a photo of this.
Chaff looks like this:
So I’m thinking it would be VERY hard to see almost immediately after deployment, which would explain why there are no photos of it.
I think the “dots” here are chaff. But I’m not sure about it.
There’s a flare here, but the rest may be chaff
http://www.planesandchoppers.com/picture/number3459.asp
Well, I think we can say fairly conclusively that whatever chaff deployment look like, it looks nothing like a persistent contrail.
Hey Uncinus, there is a new History Channel program called “That’s Impossible.” One of the episodes is called “Weather Warfare” and it looks like they’re giving “chemtrail” conspiracy theorists a platform to air their views unchallenged. Have you already heard about it? From what I’ve seen it’s stuff you’ve gone over already, since the basic evidence and arguments of “chemtrail” proponents haven’t really changed.
Indeed, see new post:
http://contrailscience.com/history-channel-thats-impossible-weather-warfare-chemtrails/