Comments on: Persisting and Spreading Contrails

By: Danno

Danno — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:15:27 +0000

Thank you Uncinus for all your hard work and excellent information. I remember first noticing contrails in the early 70’s when I was a kid. I did some reading back then and learned about why they form. Pretty basic stuff it seemed to me. Sad to think conspiracy theories outweigh science.

By: Uncinus

Uncinus — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:03:54 +0000

The new layout was part necessitated by technical reasons – particularly some posts having too many comments. There seem to be a few issues though, and it does not always go to the right page of comments.

By: faithinscience

faithinscience — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:44:48 +0000

“I beg to differ. Quite the reverse.”

I agree.

By: faithinscience

faithinscience — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:37:29 +0000

Oops, looks like I replied to a very old post. I have to remember to make sure I’m on the last page of comments when I start replying. At any rate, the new layout looks fantastic.

By: JazzRoc

JazzRoc — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:43:43 +0000

Suntour:

the left wing tip of the large plane is visually in front of the fighter in the middle.

I beg to differ. Quite the reverse. The wingtip of the fighter covers the wingtip of the tanker.

The two fighters are flying side-by-side at least a hundred feet behind and beneath the tanker. The photographing aircraft was equally behind and beneath the fighters so they all lined up – ish.

By: Faithinscience

Faithinscience — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:08:35 +0000

Hmmm…I have seen these trails over my house for almost 40 years and have never noticed any illness associated with the trails. Nor have any of my friends or family. What makes you so sure it isn’t coincidence?! Where is the evidence of any “particulate matter”?! Aside from the conspiracy sites, and the KSLA report where some guy collected rain water in a jar and assumed the particulates came from the trails, where is there ANY evidence that the trails contain ANYTHING but combustion gases and water vapor? And as far as “particulates” with “metal” go, can you think of the MILLIONS of sources of such particulates right down here at ground level?! Assumption and speculation mean NOTHING!

“Its clear to them that an artificial particulate matter of some sort is being dispersed by these airplanes”

Actually, it isn’t.

By: JazzRoc

JazzRoc — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:30:42 +0000

Anon:

are you implying it’s irrelevant because the discussion ended in 2007? Did you actually read it, or no? I’m assuming no, it doesn’t agree with your paranoid beliefs, so you’ll ignore it. That’s what you guys are best at!

I had the misfortune to wend my way through the comments. I was looking for hard evidence. I found none, only references to other claims. Where was the actual report? What did it actually say? Who were these people? So isn't the conclusion to be drawn simply that water in the town is safe, that volcanic ash polluted snow samples, that a number of activists made a few unsubstantiated claims? How could the local stream flowing through town be fresh and uncontaminated if overhead "chemtrail" spray truly existed?

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:03:35 +0000

Dangit, I messed that up again, the first link is the wiki page, the second link is the site I’m referring to. It’s called educate-yourself.org

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:01:37 +0000

Edit: I meant to write, if you google search “chemtrail”, the first link in the list will be that pretty large, elaborate website

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:00:06 +0000

@Jazzroc, so are you implying it’s irrelevant because the discussion ended in 2007? Did you actually read it, or no? I’m assuming no, it doesn’t agree with your paranoid beliefs, so you’ll ignore it. That’s what you guys are best at!

Fact is, this page and the page I linked to at ATS show clear, solid evidence dismissing many of the mainstays of the chemtrail argument. The biggest being the baseless claim that “contrails don’t persist and spread, chemtrails do”.

If you google search just the word “chemtrail”, you’ll come to a pretty large, elaborate website with many articles supporting the chemtrail belief. I read quite a bit of it myself, I even started buying some of it since it was so well-written. (that is, until I came to the part where the dude believes if you “pray” to these things in the sky they’ll come and make the chemtrails “go away”; I knew then to close my browser lol). This website’s writer bases pretty much everything he writes off that claim, that chemtrails don’t persist. But this is a lie, and can easily be seen as such. Why is one of the largest chemtrail belief sites on the net founded on a lie? Who is it spreading disinformation again?