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		<title>By: Jay Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/comment-page-1/#comment-104516</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Framer Jones wrote:
&quot;Don’t imagine for one moment that we aren’t having tests made to calculate the rise of these substances in our soil and water.&quot;

As a farmer, you need to review these links, lest you repeat the mistakes which have been already
found, yet not admitted to or addressed by your misleaders:
http://metabunk.org/threads/341-Debunked-Monsanto-s-Aluminum-Resistant-GMOs-and-Chemtrails
http://metabunk.org/threads/135-Chemical-Composition-of-rain-and-snow
http://metabunk.org/threads/154-The-Claims-of-Francis-Mangels-a-Factual-Examination
http://metabunk.org/threads/137-Shasta-Snow-and-Water-Aluminum-Tests
http://metabunk.org/threads/247-What-are-the-normal-levels-of-Barium-in-Soil-and-Water
http://metabunk.org/threads/146-Hawaii-Soil-Aluminum-Barium-Strontium-Manganese-and-Varium-tests
http://metabunk.org/threads/172-The-Claims-of-Michael-J-Murphy-A-Factual-Examination
http://metabunk.org/threads/241-Anthony-Hilder-s-AIRCRAP-advertising-Aluminum-Oxide-as-a-Natural-Cellular-Defense</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Framer Jones wrote:<br />
&#8220;Don’t imagine for one moment that we aren’t having tests made to calculate the rise of these substances in our soil and water.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a farmer, you need to review these links, lest you repeat the mistakes which have been already<br />
found, yet not admitted to or addressed by your misleaders:<br />
<a href="http://metabunk.org/threads/341-Debunked-Monsanto-s-Aluminum-Resistant-GMOs-and-Chemtrails" rel="nofollow">http://metabunk.org/threads/341-Debunked-Monsanto-s-Aluminum-Resistant-GMOs-and-Chemtrails</a><br />
<a href="http://metabunk.org/threads/135-Chemical-Composition-of-rain-and-snow" rel="nofollow">http://metabunk.org/threads/135-Chemical-Composition-of-rain-and-snow</a><br />
<a href="http://metabunk.org/threads/154-The-Claims-of-Francis-Mangels-a-Factual-Examination" rel="nofollow">http://metabunk.org/threads/154-The-Claims-of-Francis-Mangels-a-Factual-Examination</a><br />
<a href="http://metabunk.org/threads/137-Shasta-Snow-and-Water-Aluminum-Tests" rel="nofollow">http://metabunk.org/threads/137-Shasta-Snow-and-Water-Aluminum-Tests</a><br />
<a href="http://metabunk.org/threads/247-What-are-the-normal-levels-of-Barium-in-Soil-and-Water" rel="nofollow">http://metabunk.org/threads/247-What-are-the-normal-levels-of-Barium-in-Soil-and-Water</a><br />
<a href="http://metabunk.org/threads/146-Hawaii-Soil-Aluminum-Barium-Strontium-Manganese-and-Varium-tests" rel="nofollow">http://metabunk.org/threads/146-Hawaii-Soil-Aluminum-Barium-Strontium-Manganese-and-Varium-tests</a><br />
<a href="http://metabunk.org/threads/172-The-Claims-of-Michael-J-Murphy-A-Factual-Examination" rel="nofollow">http://metabunk.org/threads/172-The-Claims-of-Michael-J-Murphy-A-Factual-Examination</a><br />
<a href="http://metabunk.org/threads/241-Anthony-Hilder-s-AIRCRAP-advertising-Aluminum-Oxide-as-a-Natural-Cellular-Defense" rel="nofollow">http://metabunk.org/threads/241-Anthony-Hilder-s-AIRCRAP-advertising-Aluminum-Oxide-as-a-Natural-Cellular-Defense</a></p>
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		<title>By: SR1419</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/comment-page-1/#comment-104243</link>
		<dc:creator>SR1419</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farmer Jones said:

&quot;contrails would always rapidly dissipate&quot;

Then how do you explain this:

http://contrailscience.com/contrail-photos-through-history/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farmer Jones said:</p>
<p>&#8220;contrails would always rapidly dissipate&#8221;</p>
<p>Then how do you explain this:</p>
<p><a href="http://contrailscience.com/contrail-photos-through-history/" rel="nofollow">http://contrailscience.com/contrail-photos-through-history/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Strawman</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/comment-page-1/#comment-104066</link>
		<dc:creator>Strawman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farmer Jones, why do you just repeat the chemtrail credo, instead of facing the science of contrails? If you think that science is wrong, which parts are wrong? Chemtrailers yet have to prove any of their claims to be correct. (Which is probably why they prefer to fall back on unprovable memories.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farmer Jones, why do you just repeat the chemtrail credo, instead of facing the science of contrails? If you think that science is wrong, which parts are wrong? Chemtrailers yet have to prove any of their claims to be correct. (Which is probably why they prefer to fall back on unprovable memories.)</p>
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		<title>By: Farmer Jones</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/comment-page-1/#comment-104029</link>
		<dc:creator>Farmer Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 04:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 60 and an organic farmer. I know what the difference is because I have watched the skies all my life. Whether it was kite flying as a kid, going to the local air shows (blue angels) at Tinker AFB or farming, because It was a necessity in my work. I&#039;ve always watched the skies.
These chemtrails weren&#039;t around in the first 3/4 of my life, but contrails were. And the contrails would always rapidly dissipate. Blue skies or else cloudy skies, but never this crappy whitish haze. Never a line across the sky horizon to horizon...or the more artistic tic-tac-toes &amp; curvatures. 
The reason ppl are so adamantly denying it is because they are spraying poisons: barium, aluminum, strontium and God only knows what else. It&#039;s criminal.
That aluminum will eventually kill the trees because aluminum at the roots of the trees will inhibit water uptake, hence nutrient uptake. Not to mention the rest of the plants out there...its across the board.
Don&#039;t imagine for one moment that we aren&#039;t having tests made to calculate the rise of these substances in our soil and water.
This amounts to treason and murder. Of course they&#039;re going to deny it. What do you expect?
This article is just smoke and mirrors, just a side-track to the buzzwords &quot;alien&quot;, &quot;new age&quot;, &quot;God&quot;, &quot;ufos&quot;...&#039;don&#039;t pay any attention, weirdos and freaks wrote the bill&#039;. yadda yadda yadda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 60 and an organic farmer. I know what the difference is because I have watched the skies all my life. Whether it was kite flying as a kid, going to the local air shows (blue angels) at Tinker AFB or farming, because It was a necessity in my work. I&#8217;ve always watched the skies.<br />
These chemtrails weren&#8217;t around in the first 3/4 of my life, but contrails were. And the contrails would always rapidly dissipate. Blue skies or else cloudy skies, but never this crappy whitish haze. Never a line across the sky horizon to horizon&#8230;or the more artistic tic-tac-toes &amp; curvatures.<br />
The reason ppl are so adamantly denying it is because they are spraying poisons: barium, aluminum, strontium and God only knows what else. It&#8217;s criminal.<br />
That aluminum will eventually kill the trees because aluminum at the roots of the trees will inhibit water uptake, hence nutrient uptake. Not to mention the rest of the plants out there&#8230;its across the board.<br />
Don&#8217;t imagine for one moment that we aren&#8217;t having tests made to calculate the rise of these substances in our soil and water.<br />
This amounts to treason and murder. Of course they&#8217;re going to deny it. What do you expect?<br />
This article is just smoke and mirrors, just a side-track to the buzzwords &#8220;alien&#8221;, &#8220;new age&#8221;, &#8220;God&#8221;, &#8220;ufos&#8221;&#8230;&#8217;don&#8217;t pay any attention, weirdos and freaks wrote the bill&#8217;. yadda yadda yadda</p>
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		<title>By: SR1419</title>
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		<dc:creator>SR1419</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi elle- 

it is possible the the persisting trails were lower...its need to be cold enough for trails to form...and it needs to be humid enough fro them to persist....

It is possible that a more humid layer existed below a drier layer....both were cold enough for trails to form but only the lower trail persisted because of the humidity...

watch from the cockpit as to 2 planes pass- the lower one in a more humid layer (notice the haze) leaving a persistent trail whilst the higher plane leaves a short trail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95HS8VQO4ig

Also- more humid air typically moves in ahead of storm fronts..you will often find persistent trails a day or 2 before precipitation- read this paper experiencing exactly what you did in the Denver area 40 yrs ago:

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0469%281970%29027%3C0937%3AAOOCEO%3E2.0.CO%3B2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi elle- </p>
<p>it is possible the the persisting trails were lower&#8230;its need to be cold enough for trails to form&#8230;and it needs to be humid enough fro them to persist&#8230;.</p>
<p>It is possible that a more humid layer existed below a drier layer&#8230;.both were cold enough for trails to form but only the lower trail persisted because of the humidity&#8230;</p>
<p>watch from the cockpit as to 2 planes pass- the lower one in a more humid layer (notice the haze) leaving a persistent trail whilst the higher plane leaves a short trail:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95HS8VQO4ig" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95HS8VQO4ig</a></p>
<p>Also- more humid air typically moves in ahead of storm fronts..you will often find persistent trails a day or 2 before precipitation- read this paper experiencing exactly what you did in the Denver area 40 yrs ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0469%281970%29027%3C0937%3AAOOCEO%3E2.0.CO%3B2" rel="nofollow">http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0469%281970%29027%3C0937%3AAOOCEO%3E2.0.CO%3B2</a></p>
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