Comments on: Kucinich, Chemtrails and HR 2977 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ The Science and Pseudoscience of Contrails and Chemtrails Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:56:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Uncinus http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-48443 Uncinus Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:19:24 +0000 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-48443 That's crazy in the sense of "unusual and outlandish". Obviously several of them are real weapons. Some, like "information" weapons seem more like random juxtapositions of words than anything else. Others, like "tectonic" weapons are simply speculation. The point here is that they are "crazy" in the context of the bill. If they actually wanted to get it passed why not either just say "weapons", or actually give specific definitions of what they meant? Nobody is going to ban "information weapons in space" without a definition, as that would probably mean banning communication satellites. And why are chemtrails even there? Nobody ever suggested there are chemtrails in space. What exactly would be the point? How would space based chemtrails be a weapon? And how do sonic weapons work in the vacuum of space? Sounds pretty crazy to me. That’s crazy in the sense of “unusual and outlandish”. Obviously several of them are real weapons. Some, like “information” weapons seem more like random juxtapositions of words than anything else. Others, like “tectonic” weapons are simply speculation.

The point here is that they are “crazy” in the context of the bill. If they actually wanted to get it passed why not either just say “weapons”, or actually give specific definitions of what they meant? Nobody is going to ban “information weapons in space” without a definition, as that would probably mean banning communication satellites.

And why are chemtrails even there? Nobody ever suggested there are chemtrails in space. What exactly would be the point? How would space based chemtrails be a weapon?

And how do sonic weapons work in the vacuum of space? Sounds pretty crazy to me.

]]> By: Mr P http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-48440 Mr P Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:29:52 +0000 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-48440 Here we go again "crazy weapons"! This is a typical disinformation technique -- laugh and make fun of people saying things that you don't want them to say. Why are these weapons crazy? Why is it impossible for such weapons to exist and why is someone stupid or a nutcase if they believe they exist? The people falling for this psychological disinfo tactic are the ones who are rather crazy in my opinion. The people falling for this are people who obviously don't have a strong sense of reality and are easily lead and distracted by brainwashing and propaganda techniques. Anyone who has studied physics knows such weapons are not only possible but can and have been made. The laser is an energy weapon. Are you denying it exists? Tell that to your doctor the next time you get laser surgery -- that they don't exist and only a nutcase would believe such nonsense! Here we go again “crazy weapons”! This is a typical disinformation technique — laugh and make fun of people saying things that you don’t want them to say. Why are these weapons crazy? Why is it impossible for such weapons to exist and why is someone stupid or a nutcase if they believe they exist? The people falling for this psychological disinfo tactic are the ones who are rather crazy in my opinion. The people falling for this are people who obviously don’t have a strong sense of reality and are easily lead and distracted by brainwashing and propaganda techniques.

Anyone who has studied physics knows such weapons are not only possible but can and have been made. The laser is an energy weapon. Are you denying it exists? Tell that to your doctor the next time you get laser surgery — that they don’t exist and only a nutcase would believe such nonsense!

]]> By: Uncinus http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-48419 Uncinus Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:23:08 +0000 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-48419 No, it died in committee. First they took out all the crazy weapons, but still nobody was really interested. No, it died in committee. First they took out all the crazy weapons, but still nobody was really interested.

]]> By: SR1419 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-48416 SR1419 Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:42:24 +0000 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-48416 did this bill ever pass in any form? did this bill ever pass in any form?

]]> By: Chemtrail Info (Wikipedia) « Andreas Mörs – Snapshots, maybe more.. http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47349 Chemtrail Info (Wikipedia) « Andreas Mörs – Snapshots, maybe more.. Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:36:56 +0000 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47349 [...] http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ Wörtlich „When I found out that was in there, I said, ‘Look, I’m not interested in going [...] [...] http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ Wörtlich „When I found out that was in there, I said, ‘Look, I’m not interested in going [...]

]]> By: JazzRoc http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47100 JazzRoc Wed, 02 Jun 2010 07:46:44 +0000 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47100 Ruffneck: <i>That's the problem with science - it's always the lesser of two evils, that's the only way they peddle the bullshit</i> - This is an unanswerable statement. Who are <i>they</i>? <i>Problem is, the use of the chemicals in the first place</i> - is NOT something you are near to having established. You are merely making a baseless claim. <i>They just don't go away no matter how many more chems you put on top of them</i> - How can this statement be true in the light of what happens with the MILLIONS of tons of gas, liquid, and solid ejected each year by the Earth's 1500 active volcanoes? Wouldn't we be buried by now? <i>Science will be the demise of this world, it's not sustainable</i> - Without science you would be dead within the month, and not key-tapping baseless and fruitless comments on a machine created by - science. <i>I can't buy the everyday, perfect conditions for everlasting contrails</i> - Then perhaps you should go to a library and discover why clouds don't instantly disappear. It's a reasonable argument to me. Why can't you understand it? Ruffneck:

That’s the problem with science – it’s always the lesser of two evils, that’s the only way they peddle the bullshit – This is an unanswerable statement. Who are they?

Problem is, the use of the chemicals in the first place – is NOT something you are near to having established. You are merely making a baseless claim.

They just don’t go away no matter how many more chems you put on top of them – How can this statement be true in the light of what happens with the MILLIONS of tons of gas, liquid, and solid ejected each year by the Earth’s 1500 active volcanoes? Wouldn’t we be buried by now?

Science will be the demise of this world, it’s not sustainable – Without science you would be dead within the month, and not key-tapping baseless and fruitless comments on a machine created by – science.

I can’t buy the everyday, perfect conditions for everlasting contrails – Then perhaps you should go to a library and discover why clouds don’t instantly disappear. It’s a reasonable argument to me. Why can’t you understand it?

]]> By: Uncinus http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47007 Uncinus Fri, 28 May 2010 17:25:37 +0000 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47007 If it's obvious, why can't you convince people? If it’s obvious, why can’t you convince people?

]]> By: ruffneck http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47006 ruffneck Fri, 28 May 2010 17:23:04 +0000 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47006 Ya the obvious cover up. Ya the obvious cover up.

]]> By: faithinscience http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47002 faithinscience Fri, 28 May 2010 15:34:24 +0000 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47002 Do you understand how many chemicals were released into the atmosphere just to make your computer?! Yes, chemicals in our air IS a problem, but you are focusing on the absurd while ignoring that obvious. What a shame. Do you understand how many chemicals were released into the atmosphere just to make your computer?! Yes, chemicals in our air IS a problem, but you are focusing on the absurd while ignoring that obvious. What a shame.

]]> By: Uncinus http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47001 Uncinus Fri, 28 May 2010 15:33:09 +0000 http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/#comment-47001 Sure, it's pollution. It's a problem. But there are thousands of sources of pollution. Air travel is only a very small percentage of total world pollution. Not that it should be ignored (and in fact aircraft emissions are regulated like car emissions are). But your point is that you think there is some deliberate spraying going on? And you think this because now you've started looking for contrails, you see more of them, and now that you watch them more they seem to be lasting longer? Is that right? Sure, it’s pollution. It’s a problem.

But there are thousands of sources of pollution. Air travel is only a very small percentage of total world pollution. Not that it should be ignored (and in fact aircraft emissions are regulated like car emissions are).

But your point is that you think there is some deliberate spraying going on? And you think this because now you’ve started looking for contrails, you see more of them, and now that you watch them more they seem to be lasting longer? Is that right?

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