Asperatus is interesting. Nobody is claiming it’s a cloud type that did not exist before. It’s simply a new classification. Something between mammatus and undulatus. There are a vast number of possible cloud forms, so the distinctions between them are always going to be somewhat arbitary – when does a cumulus become alto-cumulus? When is it fractus?

I think the acknowledgment of Asperatus owes a lot to digital photography, and the image enhancement that allows you to see the features of the cloud. When you see photos like those in the article, then that’s not actually what it looks like. The contrast and color saturation has been enhanced. A normal photo of it would look washed out.

If you look up photos of Mammatus, you see similar stunning images the like of which you’ve never seen before. But Mammatus has been a classification for decades.

My data, as i said is still under collation. I want to do a proper job of it, so i will wait until i have a whole years worth.

I dont buy the planes with nozzles etc i think IF this is real that they wouldnt be so foolish as to allow people to take photo`s of it.

The planes I see going out and back are not military small jets – they appear to be 757 sized or bigger – usually 2 engines.

I love clouds. Its cool this is a hobby
What do you make of these:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1189877/The-cloud-Meteorologists-campaign-classify-unique-Asperatus-clouds-seen-world.html

(no, i dont think planes create these)

And the photos of planes with nozzles and barrels:
http://contrailscience.com/contrail-or-chemtrail/

And think about why you give credence to a theory when so many obvious falsehoods are used to support it.

1) What drove you to create this site?

It’s just a hobby.

2) How do you explain away the admission by the German government that they HAVE been undertaking geoengineering

http://contrailscience.com/germans-admit-they-used-duppel/

3) The UK government has also admitted to spraying an unsuspecting population with germ warfare agents, do you agree therefore that the government sometimes does things without our consent or approval and that these things may or may not be harmful to the general population AND that these things will be classified and therefore for the most part unprovable without whistleblowers?

Yes. And it’s the absence of whistleblowers that’s another huge point against the theory.

4) I am from the coast of the northwest UK, I have observed aircraft flying over me toward the coast emitting a giant plume of a trail – once out over the water they some how “shut off” these plumes, turn 180 degrees, and then head back to land over which the “plume” reappears. This is not NORMAL flight behaviour. I see planes do this many times a day some days – other days not at all. The routes they take are not part of the current flight paths (I have checked with my local air traffic control). How would you explain this?

Military jets on maneuvers, different air masses. But really I’d have to see it. Can you draw a diagram, or upload video? Who is your local air-traffic controller? It seems odd you could talk to someone who would know about high altitude traffic.

5) If spraying the skies would make them whiter – and there is proof that the skies ARE already becoming white, is it not reasonable to assume that there is some of this geoenginnering / planet saving spraying going on?

No. We know why the skys are “becoming white”, there’s no need to invent an extra theory to explain it.

Air traffic has been around for a long time but these persistant trails and white skies are a (relatively) new phenomenon. What has changed and how do you explain the sky whitening / cloud lightening experiments?

It’s not new. Have a poke around this site
http://contrailscience.com/persisting-and-spreading-contrails/

6) I could go on but this is probably enough to start with – except for one thing more question. IF the government admitted tomorrow that they had in fact been spraying the skies with chemicals / aerosols / metals / whatever, how would you feel about that?

Assuming you mean in large quantities, then I would be very surprised.

I`m sure you`ll find a way to argue with me though having read the above although if you read my posts properly you`ll see i am not saying for sure that they are spraying us daily with stuff, merely that there seems to be some discrepancies that i can see with my own eyes, alot of people believe they are doing us harm – im not sure about that as they have to breathe the same air – whomever they are. The govts are starting to admit that they have or are spraying for geoengineering purposes – i think a proper investigation is warranted with no theory being dismissed out of hand because – if they were doing this, it would be classified, and therefore we would not have access to know for certain. I can see that there are some points even you cannot account for. . .

I am serious in trying to determine what is the truth behind all of this.
So far I have made the following observations:

Persistant contrails do not appear on days with fast high altitude winds
Persistant contrails form with a variety of humidity / air pressure / humidity ranges, BUT normal contrails do not
Persistant contrails are first laid in a series of X`s – aircraft later fly through these X`s leaving more linear or grid like patterns – I am trying to determine if these X`s are some kind of marker?
My raw data is still being worked on and I waiting until i have a years worth of daily data / persistant contrail sightings and footage before i crunch the numbers and run correlations.

There has in addition been an increase in the number of late night trails recently (t test, P <0.05 = there is a difference)

I am as I say serious in examining this phenomenon but from what I can say there is some evidence that points to these trails being something other than mere "contrails" not least with the govt`s of the world admitting to some form of spraying going on.

1) What drove you to create this site? Are you a scientific researcher studying jet exhaust or similar. this is (i dont mean to be rude) odd choice of subject for something that is merely a hobby I would think. I am just trying to figure out your motivation.

2) How do you explain away the admission by the German government that they HAVE been undertaking geoengineering by means of the release of stratospheric aerosols.
(there are many mirrors – this is one http://libertyforlife.com/military-war/chemtrails.htm#g)

3) The UK government has also admitted to spraying an unsuspecting population with germ warfare agents, do you agree therefore that the government sometimes does things without our consent or approval and that these things may or may not be harmful to the general population AND that these things will be classified and therefore for the most part unprovable without whistleblowers?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

4) I am from the coast of the northwest UK, I have observed aircraft flying over me toward the coast emitting a giant plume of a trail – once out over the water they some how “shut off” these plumes, turn 180 degrees, and then head back to land over which the “plume” reappears. This is not NORMAL flight behaviour. I see planes do this many times a day some days – other days not at all. The routes they take are not part of the current flight paths (I have checked with my local air traffic control). How would you explain this?
5) The US has recently announced they are considering geoengineering via the release of large volumes of (as yet unidentified) aerosols and sulphur to mimic a volcanic erruption.
http://www.infowars.com/the-government-is-already-geo-engineering-the-environment/ biased source i know but contains links
Part of the “problems with doing this is listed as a “whitening” of the sky. There are numerous papers that prove the skies are already getting whiter and there have been reports in the main stream press of “cloud whitening” experiments
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/14/bill-gates-cloud-whitening-dangerous
If spraying the skies would make them whiter – and there is proof that the skies ARE already becoming white, is it not reasonable to assume that there is some of this geoenginnering / planet saving spraying going on?
Air traffic has been around for a long time but these persistant trails and white skies are a (relatively) new phenomenon. What has changed and how do you explain the sky whitening / cloud lightening experiments?
6) I could go on but this is probably enough to start with – except for one thing more question. IF the government admitted tomorrow that they had in fact been spraying the skies with chemicals / aerosols / metals / whatever, how would you feel about that?

Maybe the chemtrail pilots union only allows them to fly from 7am to 7pm so they can spend more time with their families they just poisoned.

I have also read the crazy idea of painting chemtrail grids over cities, well it seems that a grid would be the least efficient way to spray, does it not make sense to do vertical or horizontal spraying only to maximize coverage, instead of having overlap?

My suggestion:
Chemtrail enthusiasts (generally) believe that there are essentially two classes of aircraft products. Short traditional contrails that dissipate within seconds and long persistant chemtrails that are not normal, are “new” and are purposefully created for some effect.

So is there such thing as a “hybrid” trail that neither dissipates in seconds but also does not last and spread out? Is there a trail that lasts say, ten minutes? And if so what tyoe of trail is this? Contrail or chemtrail?

Anyone else?