Of course it does! Industry has been doing for over 200 years. And my car has been doing it since 2003…Women put make-up on their skin that contain hazardous chemicals. I add chemicals to my lawn to make it green. As plastics are heated they off gas hazardous chemicals. We put chemicals on our faces after we shave. Now, think about these things and then look at the ingredients lists. It’s a fact of life…we are LITERALLY surrounded by chemicals of all kinds! When I spray bug killer…I’m spraying poison in my own house…intentionally. Do you understand the water cycle and how things we use down here end up in our atmosphere? What is your point?! What concentrations are you talking about? What chemicals for what purpose? Your vague and general statements don’t go very far to convince me that I should be worried.

This site is about those who see long lasting trails in the sky and make assumptions as to what is IN the trails. If that’s not you, why are you arguing?! It’s the trails that are in question, not the FACT That poisonous agents are sometimes released for whatever reason by someone…somewhere. What the hell does that have to do with the trails I have seen in the sky for over 40 years?! You are speculating and assuming and then providing NOTHING to the discussion but your own “beliefs” and a history lesson. Yeah, we get it…people do shitty things to each other and have done so in the past. I see no evidence that anyone is spraying anything down on me from persistent contrails. THAT is the whole point. If you have ANYTHING other than the relentless speculation and assumption we get from the chemtrail hoax believers, please provide it.

“More importantly, I can hardly doubt their willingness to disburse heavy metals or biological agents in pursuit of technological advancement.”

Of course this has happened. But where and what concentrations? And for what purpose. I’m all for technical advancement as long as they don’t harm us all in the process. Which is what you seem to be suggesting someone is trying (willing?) to do. Do have ANYTHING to support that belief other than a vague fear? And it’s that vague fear that worries me more than the chemicals in my air! So many people are convinced that that are somewhat of a “target” of some evil government plot. That is just creepy! These are your own people and you (“you” used as a general term referring to anti-government/anti-military conspiracy theorists) fear, judge and accuse them of so much, and then provide NOTHING as far as evidence. Yeah, we can ALL look into the past and find a reason to dislike/distrust any group on the planet… That doesn’t mean we should! Sorry, I require actual evidence of wrongdoing BEFORE I judge others!

I have never argued that all contrails are chemtrails. That is a fallacious argument of a strawman that you erected. I simply state that I believe some experiments and possibly even campaigns entailing chemtrailing are taking place. Top government “officials” admit it, but the naysayers on this site still argue it’s not happening.

That is how I know this site is simply propaganda chatter designed to make the weak-mined deny the obvious. The US government has sprinkled radio-active dust on school children from airplanes in the past and I highly doubt that was a one time event. I think it’s patently silly for anyone to argue that aerosol disbursement of toxic or poisonous agents never occurs as certainly it has and certainly it still does.

Everyone has beliefs. My 4 year old “believes” there are fairies in the woods across the street. There is no convincing her that there aren’t. But, I don’t try….no one is being harmed by her beliefs and she will grow out of them. YOUR belief is harmful! It panics people and makes them suspicious of so many other people. Pilots, weathermen, meteorologists, atmospheric scientists, aircraft mechanics, aircraft manufactures, firefighting companies that use airplanes, crop dusters, those in the cloudseeding business, the entire US government are being maligned based on the collective ignorance of the “chemtrail” hoax believers. I’m glad that Uncinus created this site! It’s a pillar of truth in a sea of ignorance.

Sorry if the tone was a bit rude. The word “ignorance”, as I use it, does NOT mean “stupid” or “retarded”….I use it as it’s used in the dictionary. It simply means that one hasn’t been properly educated about something. Properly educated refers to learning facts from someone trained and qualified to instruct others. I am COMPLETELY ignorant about so many things simply because I haven’t take the time to learn the facts. It is NOT an insult to refer to a group of people as “ignorant” and I will defend my use of that word ’til the day I die!

What is YOUR dog in this hunt?! You see white lines in the sky and you have decided to rid the world of them?! Do you “believe” that these trails are full of poison and are harming us? Evidence? Do you miss your blue sky and want all airplanes grounded?! LOL! Good luck!

“Again” as in, here comes another person who has “learned” about atmospheric science from someone, or many, unqualified to teach it (or probably anything else) and is challenging the information on this site as part of a cover-up, and then provides NOTHING to support the ridiculous claim.

Please provide a single instance where the information isn’t correct. If you can’t, apologize to the man for your paranoid outbursts.

The only reasons this site exists is because the man loves aviation and he’s trying to help those who have been fooled into accepting a ridiculous (and I do man that, it’s just plain silly!) hoax. It doesn’t matter if sites like this exist or not. The people that actually MATTER in this world are well aware of the fact that these trails are water vapor deposited in varying atmospheric conditions, and nothing more. Personally, I enjoy all of this for the humor, and nothing else. The things you people come up with are hilarious!

Please do yourself a favor and learn about BASIC aviation, atmospheric science, jet engines and air saturation. The pieces may fit together if you actually take the time to learn these things instead of taking the lazy route and watching youtube videos made by OTHER people who aren’t educated in these subjects. Go to the library and learn about these things from NON-FICTION books please! The reason I suggest the library instead of the internet is because there is no filter on the information found on the internet. People will accept anything as fact if it agrees with what they believe to begin with. CONFIRMATION BIAS (look it up if you don’t understand) . Luckily for those of us who love aviation, we don’t NEED to use confirmation bias when learning about aviation. The basic principles of science can’t be “manipulated” as part of a lie/cover-up. If you knew atmospheric science or aviation, you would know what I mean…but, since you don’t, you don’t!

Do you have any idea how silly it makes you people look when you make paranoid claims about this site and then provide absolutely NOTHING to back the claims up? You may not understand…But I sure do! And so do all intelligent people. Thanks for the laughs. Again, the information here is basic stuff…please provide us with a SINGLE instance where there is any kind of manipulation.

Also, why would anyone who runs a site like this, and is accused of being everything from a liar to an “evil government shill”, post his actual name anywhere on the site. He’d be INSANE to do so! Some of these “chemtrail” hoax believers are crazy (and boy is it obvious!) and have made threatening remarks. I know that I have been threatened numerous times, why would I give my name?! Also, I don’t want my friends knowing that I waste my time like this. It would be embarrassing to admit that I enjoy arguing with “chemtrail” conspiracy nuts (I mean that affectionately).

So, one last time…please feel free to find false information on this site. I’m sure Uncinus would love to edit anything that’s in error. The truth is the only thing that matters. Wouldn’t you agree?

Now, tell me of any evidence that supports the chemtrail theory.

Do you understand the point I’m making? Even if the context you present is true, there’s no specific evidence to support a secret spraying program. The “chemtrails” look exactly like contrails. The test results show no more aluminum than before. So what’s the evidence?

I want to know if poison is being disbursed in the atmosphere. You who argue it isn’t should differentiate your opinion and “logic” from facts. You have no ability to state unequivocally that aluminum compounds are not being spread in the atmosphere (for a number of reasons), yet you argue in favor of a proven corrupt institutions from behind the curtain of anonymized ids and domain names. All this is happening behind the backdrop of the DOD’s admission of spending tens of billions on “information warfare” and further recent admissions of a domestic spy network of over 850,000 spies. What do you think these 850,000 people are doing all day, every day?

With regard to the previous statements, I can only surmise that you are willfully ignorant and unquestioningly loyal to an institution that would feed you to its dogs or you are being duplicitous as a function of your occupation. I hope it’s the former, but I’d bet it’s the latter.

Also, I find it interesting that faithinscience say “Again, you make the claim..”. What is the context of this “again”?

For anyone who might just happen on this post while researching chemtrails, I would remind you there is a large number of “science” websites that are directly tied to Department of Defense Counter-Intelligence Operations. I believe this is one of those sites.

Again, you make the claim…and provide no evidence. What does that make YOU!?

I spend way more time watching TV than I do debunking chemtrails. Cries of “where to they find the time” are disingenuous. That fact that your theory is interesting and common enough enough to attract debunkers no more validates it than the existence of atheist web sites validates angels.

Think about it – what’s more likely to need debunking? Something that’s wrong, or something that’s right?

And regarding “infowars” – you know the internet is not censored, right? Alex Jones can say whatever he likes, reveal whatever information he wants, and he’s never censored. So how is he at war? Why can’t he just post the information that proves chemtrails?

Did that KC-10 hoax not give you pause? You were willing to accept it as “proof” right? Are you now slightly more skeptical than before? If not, then why not?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread595196/pg1

It’s not ‘FEAR MONGERING” it’s humor. All the professionals I’ve talked to, the people who know about planes, fuel, weather, etc…the experts, laugh about “chemtrailers” and thier paranoid delusions. They enjoy doing this kind of thing. Believe it or not, “chemtrailers” are a minority fringe. Most people do not believe in them. To have pilots laughing about some idiot taking his video and claiming it’s “proof’ probably made their day.
The only fearmongering are the doom and gloom sector, those insisting it’s poison pharmaceuticals spread to dumb-down, zombify, and sicken the populace by invading reptilians from Nibiru, who work their nefarious planes with TPTB elite Masonic Bilderberger despots running the US military, all while trying to stop global warning, making rain, using earthquakes as weapons.

It’s the ultimate debunk. Take a video of something you KNOW the ins and outs of, post it with as little information as possible, and watch all the nutters claim it as “proof” of their conspiracy. I’ve done it myself, although sudden illness didn’t allow me the reveal. It was a reply to all the “magic eye” people who say you can “see” the difference in a trail. I had six powdery white substances, showed each to the camera, put it on a turntable, spun it and asked for everyone’s opinion which one was flour. But I kept filming, uninterupted for a reveal, then got sick and was hospitalized. I had people say they could see the flour clearly. WRONG!!! I had a can of rose dust insecticide in the flour bag, so there was no flour. My point was you can’t see anything, you must test to determine what the chemical make-up of anything unknown really is.
I was off the internet while in hospital, and laughed at each guess a week later. And pulled it because it seemed too late to reveal.
This pilots are doing the same thing.

Chemtrailers were wrong, but they will believe anything if it supports their theory.

This is what we have to deal with when questioning the status quo: People who are so sure they know the truth that they are willing to poison themselves while creating hoax videos.

This site as well as other known COINTELPRO sites should make any casual observer wonder who has the time to give so much effort to de-bunking reasonable claims against the honesty and integrity of “THE GOVERNMENT”. Certainly it’s not the tens of thousands of admitted DOD disinformation employees or many of the 850,000+ top secret operatives exposed recently: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/one_in_three_us_spies_are_contract_0mIVNDyHb2GeWWEOaqYLFM . We truly are in an INFOWAR as William Cohen said may years ago.