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		<title>By: Archeopterix</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails/#comment-45931</link>
		<dc:creator>Archeopterix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone is attempting to poison us then barium is a particularly poor choice.

While all soluble barium salts are poisonous and can be lethal in quantity (and here I have to admit that I don&#039;t know what the LD50 for different barium salts are-if anyone reading this knows they&#039;re welcome to follow up of course) barium itself is a peculiarity among heavy metals because it does NOT bio-accumulate. That means it does not persist in the body as other heavy metals like lead, cadmium, arsenic, gold, thallium, etc.  do.  In fact people who work with barium on a regular basis often develop a benign condition called baritosis which manifests itself as a cough, and as tiny star shaped deposits in the lungs which are opaque to X Rays.  These clear gradually after exposure to the barium ceases.

Likewise aluminum IS toxic but the body has natural mechanisms to rid it from the system.  With the right amounts of the proper nutrients the aluminum is excreted through the hair follicles. It DOES after all stand to reason that the body would evolve a defense against the most prevalent metal on Earth!  

Then what about the constituents some people claim also compose chemtrails, such as biological agents like molds, bacillus strains, viruses, spores, etc?  Well naturally you would expect to find those things in the environment and it would be a very strange place indeed that lacked these common organisms.   What about claims that the particular species being found are exotic to the areas they&#039;re being found in however?  If there are species of bacteria being found in Long Island (just as an example) that should normally be found in Africa, then how did they get to Long Island?  That&#039;s a question I don&#039;t have an answer for.

Moral:  Not everything being found in so called chemtrail fallout MUST be strange or exotic.  If I order a test to find out if there are bacteria in rainwater then I must expect SOME kind of bacteria are undoubtedly going to be found.  Bacteria are the most common organisms on the Earth!  However if I don&#039;t go further and order the species to be specifically identified then I might assume by way of a knee-jerk reaction that said bacteria doesn&#039;t belong.  There is a panic factor involved.

Now if the technician that does the test calls me and says well sir, I ran your tests and I found out something very odd:  You have a microscopic parasite in your rainwater that&#039;s normally found in the jungles of the south pacific and not on Long Island then maybe it&#039;s time to be concerned.

What about things like blood cells, vaccines, and other cell types that can&#039;t be positively identified being found in rainwater?  That I don&#039;t have an answer for.  I said earlier I believe something could be going on and I have a few reasons but as with anything I welcome logical answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone is attempting to poison us then barium is a particularly poor choice.</p>
<p>While all soluble barium salts are poisonous and can be lethal in quantity (and here I have to admit that I don&#8217;t know what the LD50 for different barium salts are-if anyone reading this knows they&#8217;re welcome to follow up of course) barium itself is a peculiarity among heavy metals because it does NOT bio-accumulate. That means it does not persist in the body as other heavy metals like lead, cadmium, arsenic, gold, thallium, etc.  do.  In fact people who work with barium on a regular basis often develop a benign condition called baritosis which manifests itself as a cough, and as tiny star shaped deposits in the lungs which are opaque to X Rays.  These clear gradually after exposure to the barium ceases.</p>
<p>Likewise aluminum IS toxic but the body has natural mechanisms to rid it from the system.  With the right amounts of the proper nutrients the aluminum is excreted through the hair follicles. It DOES after all stand to reason that the body would evolve a defense against the most prevalent metal on Earth!  </p>
<p>Then what about the constituents some people claim also compose chemtrails, such as biological agents like molds, bacillus strains, viruses, spores, etc?  Well naturally you would expect to find those things in the environment and it would be a very strange place indeed that lacked these common organisms.   What about claims that the particular species being found are exotic to the areas they&#8217;re being found in however?  If there are species of bacteria being found in Long Island (just as an example) that should normally be found in Africa, then how did they get to Long Island?  That&#8217;s a question I don&#8217;t have an answer for.</p>
<p>Moral:  Not everything being found in so called chemtrail fallout MUST be strange or exotic.  If I order a test to find out if there are bacteria in rainwater then I must expect SOME kind of bacteria are undoubtedly going to be found.  Bacteria are the most common organisms on the Earth!  However if I don&#8217;t go further and order the species to be specifically identified then I might assume by way of a knee-jerk reaction that said bacteria doesn&#8217;t belong.  There is a panic factor involved.</p>
<p>Now if the technician that does the test calls me and says well sir, I ran your tests and I found out something very odd:  You have a microscopic parasite in your rainwater that&#8217;s normally found in the jungles of the south pacific and not on Long Island then maybe it&#8217;s time to be concerned.</p>
<p>What about things like blood cells, vaccines, and other cell types that can&#8217;t be positively identified being found in rainwater?  That I don&#8217;t have an answer for.  I said earlier I believe something could be going on and I have a few reasons but as with anything I welcome logical answers.</p>
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		<title>By: faithinscience</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails/#comment-44751</link>
		<dc:creator>faithinscience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think I’ll fill a cup with bottled water and label it “rain water” and have it tested. I’m sure that will prove once and for all that there is absolutely nothing in the air.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup, and what these people claim to do is no more or less scientific than that. What bothers me is that they don&#039;t understand WHY it&#039;s a bad idea to leave a jar out, collect rain water and claim that anything found in that water is proof of air contamination. They are COMPLETELY ignorant about proper sample collection and contamination when these things SHOULD BE obvious. How can someone make such obvious mistakes and then claim it&#039;s the proper way to collect a sample, with a straight face. It&#039;s just absurd!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think I’ll fill a cup with bottled water and label it “rain water” and have it tested. I’m sure that will prove once and for all that there is absolutely nothing in the air.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup, and what these people claim to do is no more or less scientific than that. What bothers me is that they don&#8217;t understand WHY it&#8217;s a bad idea to leave a jar out, collect rain water and claim that anything found in that water is proof of air contamination. They are COMPLETELY ignorant about proper sample collection and contamination when these things SHOULD BE obvious. How can someone make such obvious mistakes and then claim it&#8217;s the proper way to collect a sample, with a straight face. It&#8217;s just absurd!</p>
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		<title>By: captfitch</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails/#comment-44739</link>
		<dc:creator>captfitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 23:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m a little in the dark about the testing process.  If you wanted something tested can you just bring it in and tell them were you got it and they test it?  Shouldn&#039;t the item being tested have some sort of collection and possession protocol?  I mean, if I give urine it&#039;s controlled and handled very carefully.  It looks like all these samples have just been collected willy-nilly and handed over on faith that they were collescted and handled correctly.  

I think I&#039;ll fill a cup with bottled water and label it &quot;rain water&quot; and have it tested.  I&#039;m sure that will prove once and for all that there is absolutely nothing in the air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m a little in the dark about the testing process.  If you wanted something tested can you just bring it in and tell them were you got it and they test it?  Shouldn&#8217;t the item being tested have some sort of collection and possession protocol?  I mean, if I give urine it&#8217;s controlled and handled very carefully.  It looks like all these samples have just been collected willy-nilly and handed over on faith that they were collescted and handled correctly.  </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll fill a cup with bottled water and label it &#8220;rain water&#8221; and have it tested.  I&#8217;m sure that will prove once and for all that there is absolutely nothing in the air.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncinus</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails/#comment-44736</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the &quot;THOUSANDS&quot; is due to people confusing milligrams with micrograms.  At most the aluminum tests are 2-3 times the EPA limits (which are limits for &lt;i&gt;taste&lt;/i&gt;, and not toxicity), and perfectly natural to find in groundwater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the &#8220;THOUSANDS&#8221; is due to people confusing milligrams with micrograms.  At most the aluminum tests are 2-3 times the EPA limits (which are limits for <i>taste</i>, and not toxicity), and perfectly natural to find in groundwater.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncinus</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails/#comment-44735</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You can deny the reality of chemtrails all you want folks… the numbers don’t lie. Unless you can come up with a reason why the air, soil, and water are being polluted with aluminum, barium, and other metals at THOUSANDS of times normal limits, I think chemtrails would have to be considered the most plausable reason.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That observation actually proves that it&#039;s not coming from trails in the sky.  The test made are highly localized - in one very small spot, and vastly different from other spots just a mile or so away.

If they are accurate then it proves it can&#039;t be from contrails, as anything sprayed in the sky and lingering fro hours would spread evenly over thousands of square miles, been detected at the same levels everywhere.

The most likely explanation is simply local contamination from the ground.  Aluminum and barium are very common elements, and found, in different concentrations, in the ground, and in airborne dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You can deny the reality of chemtrails all you want folks… the numbers don’t lie. Unless you can come up with a reason why the air, soil, and water are being polluted with aluminum, barium, and other metals at THOUSANDS of times normal limits, I think chemtrails would have to be considered the most plausable reason.</p></blockquote>
<p>That observation actually proves that it&#8217;s not coming from trails in the sky.  The test made are highly localized &#8211; in one very small spot, and vastly different from other spots just a mile or so away.</p>
<p>If they are accurate then it proves it can&#8217;t be from contrails, as anything sprayed in the sky and lingering fro hours would spread evenly over thousands of square miles, been detected at the same levels everywhere.</p>
<p>The most likely explanation is simply local contamination from the ground.  Aluminum and barium are very common elements, and found, in different concentrations, in the ground, and in airborne dust.</p>
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		<title>By: Faithinscience</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails/#comment-44732</link>
		<dc:creator>Faithinscience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moxaman. The websites that you glean your &quot;facts&quot; from are NOT reputable. How were the collected samples kept free of contamination? Sorry, the people who run these sites would sell their mothers to push their agendas further. NONE of these sampling techniques prove that ANY of this stuff comes from the trails. This is just more assumption, speculation and BAD science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moxaman. The websites that you glean your &#8220;facts&#8221; from are NOT reputable. How were the collected samples kept free of contamination? Sorry, the people who run these sites would sell their mothers to push their agendas further. NONE of these sampling techniques prove that ANY of this stuff comes from the trails. This is just more assumption, speculation and BAD science.</p>
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		<title>By: moxaman</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails/#comment-44729</link>
		<dc:creator>moxaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can deny the reality of chemtrails all you want folks... the numbers don&#039;t lie.  Unless you can come up with a reason why the air, soil, and water are being polluted with aluminum, barium, and other metals at THOUSANDS of times normal limits, I think chemtrails would have to be considered the most plausable reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can deny the reality of chemtrails all you want folks&#8230; the numbers don&#8217;t lie.  Unless you can come up with a reason why the air, soil, and water are being polluted with aluminum, barium, and other metals at THOUSANDS of times normal limits, I think chemtrails would have to be considered the most plausable reason.</p>
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		<title>By: moxaman</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails/#comment-44728</link>
		<dc:creator>moxaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then there is the following report by a reporter who visited with a long time resident of Mt. Shasta.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-7958-0-5-5--.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then there is the following report by a reporter who visited with a long time resident of Mt. Shasta.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-7958-0-5-5--.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-7958-0-5-5&#8211;.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: moxaman</title>
		<link>http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails/#comment-44727</link>
		<dc:creator>moxaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you would like to explain the extremely elevated levels of aluminum, barium, and other metals found in these samples taken at Mt. Shasta and surrounding areas?

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/library/testing/norcalcit4cleanair.html

The area where these samples were taken has been heavily sprayed with persistant contrails (chemtrails).  The samples were furnished by citizens living in the area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you would like to explain the extremely elevated levels of aluminum, barium, and other metals found in these samples taken at Mt. Shasta and surrounding areas?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/library/testing/norcalcit4cleanair.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/library/testing/norcalcit4cleanair.html</a></p>
<p>The area where these samples were taken has been heavily sprayed with persistant contrails (chemtrails).  The samples were furnished by citizens living in the area.</p>
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		<title>By: Traducción de un artículo de Contrailscience.com &#171; Los chemtrails no existen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traducción de un artículo de Contrailscience.com &#171; Los chemtrails no existen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] es concreta y contrastada, una maravilla. Tiene artículos realmente interesantes, como el del timo de Carnicom (los análisis científicos que realizaron), que más adelante [...]</description>
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